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([personal profile] technoir Sep. 13th, 2006 09:49 am)
Okay a few minor points...

Am I going to be kicked out of the liberal classification if I say I do not want Hilary Clinton as president? Am I the only one who cringes at the thought of this woman. She has consistantly iritated me every time I hear about any time she has taken a stand. maybe cause the times I hear about it is blatent politics or she is talking about how our children need to be protected from video games, tv and movies. Can the Democrats not come up with someone better? Al gore looks like a bitter whiner. Dean does not stand up to the test either. Barak Obama might be a choise I dont know but right now the field of democrats is pretty slim. There is a movie coming out starring Robin Williams that has the premise a John Stewart type comedian host of a topical comedy show runs for president and wins. I am amused by this concept as much as anything because iut is so believable. Running for president as much as anything is a popularity contest these days. John Stewart is likable and smart. If he ran is it not believable he would win?

On the republican side I pointed out if Colin Powel ran for president he would probably win to a friend of mine at work. All of my black coworkers stated they believe he would be killed before he could ever win. They were convinced because Colin Powel was black he would eventually be killed for trying to become president. These were all normally reasonable people but on this they saw not alternative result. I am bothered that this seems such a previlent view. Is this really still a fear? I could see it it being a legitimate concern 30 years ago, but now?

on an unrelated note I am thinking of trying to attend a Universalist Unitarian church. In many ways it the only church can honestly feel at home in. I am a spiritual person but I am certainly not a Christian or a religious person. I do feel however I sometimes miss the sharing of that spiritual aspect in my life. I am think of going to a Universalist Unitarian church to maybe get some of that.

not much else at the moment.
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From: [identity profile] hoshiadam.livejournal.com


I've heard that from several people running in our circle - that they feel Hillary would be a bad idea. I tend to agree - she's worse than most politicians about hiding her 'all political, all the time' attitude. She's got no charisma, which, to be blunt, is probably one of the most important aspects of the president.

I just hope there is someone in the election that I want to vote for, so maybe I'll actually vote this time. Sadly, I don't see anyone currently that I'd want in office. Depends a lot on how this election goes - if shifts to a Democratic congress, I wouldn't mind a republican president again, assuming one that was more socially moderate. (go gridlock!)


From: [identity profile] hapersmion.livejournal.com


While I like the idea of a female president finally, I'd like her not to be evil. So no Clinton.

I'd vote for John Stewart. :) At least he isn't a politician, that gives him a huge bonus in the "not being evil" category. And I'd probably still vote for Colin Powell, despite his connection to Bush. Even with that, he seems more trustworthy than any other politician I've seen. I really wouldn't expect race to be a very big deal - there are always some crazy people who wouldn't like it, but there are always crazy people who get riled up about something.

Ack, I talked about politics!

BTW, there's a Unitarian church on Kingston, just a block or two to the left (west) when you turn off of Alcoa.

From: [identity profile] virtualmel.livejournal.com


I'd vote for Jon Stewart. LOL
I haven't seen a politician I've liked in a really long time...

From: [identity profile] chinook-wind.livejournal.com


I don't care for Hillary either, and I wouldn't vote for her. She's slimy, and I don't think she has a workable plan for the country. I don't like a variety of her stances on issues.

I would vote for Powell in a heartbeat, but the last I heard was that he has no intention of running because he doesn't want to be president. Which actually seems legit: the ones we really want, the ones who have some integrity, know what they'd be getting into and therefore run the other way from the idea. Like any sane person would.

I would very seriously consider voting for McCain, but I'd have to know more. Obama, maybe; again with the knowing more. Guiliani ... hrm. I don't know about him. We'll have to see. I just wish the Libertarians would get a sane, appropriate platform and candidate.

UU is a good church for folks who want fellowship without religion. My mom's a big part of the UU organization in Boise.

From: [identity profile] chinook-wind.livejournal.com


Oh, and:

I would vote for Jon Stewart too. :) It's definitely plausible that he might eventually run.

And and:

I truly, truly hope that this country is far beyond the point at which a black man would be killed for trying to become president. I suspect that if he were, the resulting riots would tear us apart. As well they should -- that's unconscionable.

From: [identity profile] speaks.livejournal.com

On a few subjects


1) Hillary is only "slimy and evil" due to the utter hatchet-job performed by the right. I am happy that you have a specific reason to dislike her (her stance on video games) but basically anything that comes out of her mouth is immediately vilified by the right wing for reasons that are beyond me.

That said, she is a polarizing figure and the last thing we need is someone to be more polarizing.

2) You don't know the Democratic Candidate yet. I can virtually guarantee that it will not be Gore, Dean, Clinton. It MAY be Obama, but that would surprise me. My guess is they will pick some relative unknown who can say the magic words "Outsider" and "Change"

It worked in 1992.

3) John Stewart running would make the whole Jerry Springer leaving politics to start a talk show circle complete. I would vote for him over a number of other candidates but I sincerely doubt he would make a good president.

4) Colin Powell WOULD make a good president, but he was neutered by the Bush Administration and thrown in the trash. Very sad indeed.

From: [identity profile] nonspecific.livejournal.com


UU's are good! :D


(Now I'm all dancing to the Convincing John song)

From: [identity profile] tomdpimp.livejournal.com


Obama can't run for President as he is not a natural born citizen. Colin Powell is out politics due to the war running his rep.

From: [identity profile] tomdpimp.livejournal.com


Hillary should not run. She is a great politican but I see her getting the VP. I want to see John Edwards run again and I think he would make the best cannidate. I voted for him the 2004 primary. Hell I met him at a rally in 2004.

From: [identity profile] technoir.livejournal.com


Barack Obama was born on August 4th, 1961, in Hawaii to Barack Obama, Sr. and Ann Dunham. Obama graduated from Columbia University in 1983, and moved to Chicago in 1985 to work for a church-based group seeking to improve living conditions in poor neighborhoods plagued with crime and high unemployment. In 1991, Obama graduated from Harvard Law School where he was the first African American editor of the Harvard Law Review.

From: [identity profile] technoir.livejournal.com


I will check it out. I grew up going to Anglican services so it may be a transition for me.

From: [identity profile] technoir.livejournal.com


I have heard people bat around Guiliani. I honestly cant say on him but I have heard his moderate republican which would be nice change of pace, especially if the congress and senate change hands.


From: [identity profile] technoir.livejournal.com


Yeah the church on kingston pike or the one in oak ridge are the ones I am looking at.

From: [identity profile] tomdpimp.livejournal.com


I was mistaken. I read that he had Nigerian citizenship, but after further review he has dual citizenship. Excellent.

From: [identity profile] gideondelnath.livejournal.com


Having not attended a service at the Oak Ridge local UU, I can't really say much as to how their services go from personal experience, but I have two people close to me that believe very much in that particular church. I've also helped out with the rummage sale they hold for the past two years, and I must say that everyone that attends the rummage sale is friendly and understanding. I personally reccomend speaking with members of both churches, and possibly the Priests of the churches themselves before making a final decision, if not attending a gathering at the churches as well.

From: [identity profile] puzzleoflight.livejournal.com


I'm neutral about Clinton. I'm positive Gore isn't going to run again, and honestly he's become a better politician since "losing" to Bush. I didn't like him before, but since then I've been pleasantly surprised at his surge toward enviromentalism. He was always an environmentalist, but didn't really seem to come into his own until after the election.

I rather like Obama and would certainly vote for him if he were to run.

From: [identity profile] elena.livejournal.com


I don't want her because she's been in politics too long. I liked Clinton and Gore in '92 because they were relatively fresh, you know? They were still people. Too much time in the system and you change; it eats you away. Hilary is a prime example. I don't like her.


I'd vote for Colin Powell in 5 seconds, though, but too bad hes not remotely interested.

From: [identity profile] gr8tmazinkaiser.livejournal.com


Clinton screams "world leader". She's ruthless, a strong personality, smart as a whip, etc... she'd make a remarkably effective head of state. McCain is a loose cannon; love the guy to death, but I'd like someone in office that I could rely on. Colin Powell would also be decent in the role.

Ultimately though it'd be best that we have an ineffective government; I doubt we can survive another righteous imbecile/one-party Congress this time around.
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