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[technoir]

I have to give respect to McCain for at least trying to tone down his supporters. I saw some footage of him on cnn where he was saying nice things about Obama. He was actually booed by his own people at a rally for suggesting people should be respectful of the other side.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/10/10/bash.mccain.friday.cnn

He is not afraid to keep running misleading ads but at least he was willing to tell some of his supporters they were wrong about him. Kudos to him for it.

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[technoir.livejournal.com]

I am going to have to disagree with you Jeffery(us being on opposite sides of a debate? That never happens!). I have been watching this guy for years. This sort of negative ad is not really his style I really think that is more the thing his strategists came up with. Yesterday the news broke about how the the crowds were getting out of hand. I imagine there is a point where he sees cnn and for the first time really sees how bad it's getting and decided he had to say something. it is hard when dealing with the public directly to honestly get a picture of what all is going on. I think him correcting people when they are scared of Obama is honestly him when he does not have the machine going at him.

Do I think the ad's are ridiculous? Hell yeah. I despise guilt by association. I also dislike the lack of civility in discourse. It was nice to see someone say in a public venue "hey lets be respectful of the other side." It is one of the things I liked about Obama from the beginning. Did McCain have to do that? No he didn't. He could have just blown it off and talked about how people are angry and while he doesn't support the more extreme he can understand it. He could have done that and been clean with his party and the press. He didn't he actually did something he knew would piss off those same angry voices and told them in public they were wrong.

So yes he deserves Kudos for that.

[jeffrey.livejournal.com]

I've been watching McCain for years, too. He USED to be the stand-up kind of guy who would call his own supporters out on this. But then once Bush unfairly savaged him and lied about him and then he turned around and licked his balls just to get the party nomination years later, he sold his soul. That's when McCain stopped being the "maverick" and became the guy who voted with Bush 90% of the time.

And even if you put it off on his strategists, who ultimately is in charge of them and his campaign? "The buck stops here".

There's no "waiting to see how bad it's getting" or not realizing. People were calling for DEATH and ASSASSINATION of Obama at McCain and Palin rallies. He had a moral responsibility to come out and condemn those comments IMMEDIATELY and let his followers know he's better than that and that kind of attitude has no place in American politics.

Instead he waited... to see if it'd give him a bump in the polls. And he did NOTHING about it until he saw it wasn't helping his numbers.

It's more soul-selling. And I think you're just trying to see him be part of the man he used to be, and that'd be great for all of us. But he's NOT that man, because that man would have done the right thing and put a stop to talk of violence IMMEDIATELY.

So no, him coming forward to condemn the comments that he himself riled up by intimating Obama was a terrorist a WEEK after they've been going on is NOT honorable and doesn't deserve kudos, it deserves someone taking him to task over why he waited so damned long to bother to say he was against that kind of bullshit.

...to say nothing of his backhanded insult of "No, Obama's not an Arab, he's a decent family man". So... Arabs aren't decent family men now?

He keeps sinking lower and lower, and it's sad, but selling ones soul is a slippery slope.